How to Use AI Without It Running The Show with Tamra Cajo (BONUS, Ep162)
You heard it from me, now hear it from my sister!
I recorded the podcast you heard on Wednesday, "To AI or Not to AI: The Question Is When, Not If," on my ahas about AI from our conversation at the beach a couple of weeks ago.
I told my sister about it, and she was like, " Hey, I got more information.” And I said, “Well, I have more thinking!”
So, I’m releasing a BONUS episode of Consulting Matters on this week’s topic on AI with my very special guest, my sister Tamra Cajo!
Tamra (or Tami, as I call her) is a nonprofit leader who is in love with Claude (where Claude and I are on a break right now). But somehow, over the course of our weekend together, we found common ground on how to get the best out of AI - without it running the show.
When you tune into the bonus episode, you won't just hear me summarize our conversation, but see it LIVE.
Plus, you'll get to see firsthand (if you watch the episode on my blog or on YT) and find out if we both inherited our dad’s gift for persuasive conversation.
If you really want to know how I am as a person and a professional, check this one out. It’s a fun conversation.
Where to dive in:
00:00 – Welcome + Why This AI Conversation Matters
02:38 – AI as an “Extra Employee” in Nonprofit Leadership
07:09 – Neurodiversity, ADHD & Using AI to Organize Thinking
11:48 – Where AI Helps vs. Where Human Expertise Still Matters
14:08 – The Need for AI Guardrails, Policies & Slowing Down
18:41 – AI, Mental Health & Why Human Relationships Still Matter
23:36 – Creativity, Authenticity & the Danger of “Too Smooth” AI Content
27:42 – Leadership Coaching, AI Prep Work & Knowing What You Don’t Know
32:28 – Authenticity, Inner Wisdom & Avoiding AI Dependency
39:23 – Final Takeaways: AI as a Tool, Not the Leader
Other episodes you may enjoy:
- To AI or Not to AI: The Question is When Not If
- Too Many Business Ideas? 5 Steps to Find Your Focus
- Consulting and Coaching in The Messy Middle
- How to Become a Confident Speaker with Dr. Christina Madison
- Do You Love Consulting or Coaching but Hate Marketing?
- Starting a Consulting Business: How to Get It Right from Day One
About my guest: Tamra graduated with a master's degree in social work from Loyola University in Chicago (2005) and a bachelor's degree in psychology from the University of Iowa (1993). Tamra is a bilingual licensed clinical social worker with over 10 years of experience working in early childhood and prevention. Previously, Tamra was the lead trainer in the Midwest for ACT Raising Safe Kids, an evidence-based violence prevention curriculum. In addition, Tamra has been trained in a number of other evidence-based curriculums including Circle of Security Parenting, Families Moving Forward (FMF), Helping the Non-Compliant Child, Chicago Parent Program and Youth Mental Health First Aid. Tamra was certified in Kundalini Yoga in 2001 in Santiago, Chile and has continued to further her education in both yoga and mindfulness for young children. Tamra practices mindfulness and meditation on a daily basis as a way to stay grounded and be present both at work and at home.
About the host: Betsy Jordyn is a business mentor, brand messaging strategist, and former Disney consultant who helps purpose-driven consultants and coaches build profitable businesses rooted in their unique strengths. With over 20 years in the industry and a knack for turning big ideas into clear positioning, she's your go-to for strategy that aligns with your calling. Work with me: https://www.betsyjordyn.com/services