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What If We Got Employee Engagement All Wrong with Beverly Crowell (Ep124)

Agree or Disagree: Employee engagement should be the #1 leadership priority.

If you have been working with organizations, as a leader or a consultant, I'd hedge a bet that you'd agree.

But what if we have all gotten this completely wrong! 

What if everything we believe about employee engagement and what organizations are pumping billions of dollars into can't and will never work, or not how we think it will?

To explore what the real alternative is to employee engagement and what is actually needed to create workplaces that have respect for people at their core... I'm bringing on the Consulting Matters podcast, Beverly Crowell. 

She is the Managing Partner of Peter Block's Designed Learning, an organization that creates structured learning experiences that awaken a sense of purpose to create organizations that serve the common good. 

Tune in now to discover:

  • ⁠What we believe about employee disengagement is fundamentally flawed, and why it's wasting billions of dollars and countless hours
  • ⁠The questions we should and shouldn't be asking on employee engagement surveys
  • The power of positive accountability... why leaders will see increased performance when we ask employees to take responsibility for their own engagement

If you're an organizational consultant or coach (particularly in organization development, HR, L&D, and Lean), passionate about creating workplaces that have respect for people at their core, this is the conversation you will NOT want to miss. 

Where to dive in:

(00:00) Reimagining Employee Engagement in Organizations
(08:41) Redefining Employee Engagement Ownership
(14:10) Revolutionizing Employee Engagement in Organizations
(27:58) Empowering Entrepreneurial Mindset in Organizations
(40:24) Contracting for Effective Consulting Partnerships
(47:32) Empowering Organizational Relationships Through Partnership

About the guest: Beverly Crowell is the Managing Partner at Designed Learning, the for-profit arm of Peter Block’s work. With over 15 years of experience across consulting, talent management, and organizational development, Beverly brings deep expertise in helping organizations reimagine how they engage, develop, and lead their people. She’s worked with Fortune 500 companies across industries, from aerospace to healthcare and is a contributing author to several leading handbooks on leadership and talent. A sought-after speaker and facilitator, Beverly is known for her ability to challenge assumptions and spark meaningful change. She lives in Merritt Island, Florida, with her husband and two children. 

About the host: Betsy Jordyn is a business mentor, brand messaging strategist, and former Disney consultant who helps purpose-driven consultants and coaches build profitable businesses rooted in their unique strengths. With over 20 years in the industry and a knack for turning big ideas into clear positioning, she's your go-to for strategy that aligns with your calling.

Ready to turn your expertise into a business that makes both impact and income? Work with me: https://www.betsyjordyn.com/services